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Post-Debate Reaction and Analysis of VP Debate

3 October, 2008 (10:55) | Barack Obama, Biden, bloggers, Bush, debate, democrats, election, election 2008, GOP, government, John McCain, media, news, Obama, opinion, politics, Republicans, Sarah Palin, video, women, youtube | By: Catherine Morgan

Here is a quick roundup of Post-Debate Reaction and Analysis of  last night’s VP Debate.  What did you think?  Let me know in comments.

[If you missed the debate, you can see it in full here.]

Keith Olberman and Rachel Maddow do a post-debate analysis…

Last Night CNN had an interesting post-debate analysis…

Carl Bernstein on a post analysis of debate…

Fox News thought Sarah Palin did great. Articulate, even…

Morning Joe on MSNBC has a quick analysis of last night’s debate…

Say It Ain’t So Joe????????

What the bloggers thought…

Pamela from Pam’s Coffee Conversation found a great fact-checking video…

From Donklephant

They started off amicably enough. “Can I call you Joe?” were Sarah Palin’s first words. Similarly, “Pleasure to be with you, to meet you,” Joe Biden began. Joe called her “Governor Palin,” while Sarah called him “Senator Biden.” They kept the tone deflected away from each other by focusing on Obama/McCain and cherry-picking points to lavish praise on one another. Biden praised Palin for her support of windfall profit taxes and her support of civil unions; Palin praised Biden for once saying he would run on the ticket with John McCain and for his support of Israel. However, it wasn’t always so friendly…

From Robert Shrum at The Huffington Post

Sarah Palin has experience being a runner-up — which will come in handy in November. Tonight she barely kept up. In advance, the commenteriat almost unanimously agreed on a false measure of this debate. Judging by “expectation” meant that pundits could conceivably award a faux victory if she was half-coherent and modestly informed after a cram session in Arizona. But voters apply an absolute standard, not a low water mark of expectations: With America facing two wars and economic disaster, Americans ask if a candidate is up to the job.

By any rational assessment, Palin wasn’t tonight — and hasn’t been any time she’s not reading a teleprompter. President Palin– the nuclear button, recession, the health care crisis, global warming (which she doesn’t believe in, as she believes in creationism) — well, it simply doesn’t compute. A part in Fargo, yes — that office in the West Wing, no.

Everybody wondered how Palin would do. At least as important, or more, was that Joe Biden did a superb job. He deftly stopped Palin from distorting Obama’s views. He won the tax cut argument– Democrats usually don’t. He won the health care argument; Palin just gave up. She wouldn’t — couldn’t — answer the questions; she wanted to talk about energy, which she’s supposed to know something about, but she even lost on that . Often she didn’t know or couldn’t say what McCain’s policy is. And on foreign policy, she must have been staring out the window when she sat down with Henry Kissinger. She “loves” Israel but can’t discuss mideast realities in one inch depth. She can’t even articulate basic conditions for the use of nuclear weapons.

Palin relied on topline phrases and had little command of facts. Why, she even memorized the name of the President of Iran. But it was mostly blah, blah, blah. At the end, the Obama-Biden ticket is far ahead on the big issues — and Palin’s a parrot repeating memorized phrases, not a plausible vice-president. Biden called her on it every time.

From FiveThirtyEight.com

As with the Obama-McCain debate last Friday, the vast majority of the insta-polls went to the Democratic ticket. Biden won the CBS poll of undecideds 46-21, and the CNN poll of debate watchers 51-36. Independents in the large MediaCurves focus group panel went for Biden about 2:1.

The internals, however, weren’t nearly as bad for Palin as the topline results. She got a jump in preparedness in the CBS poll, and the CNN found that a large majority of voters concluded that she had beaten their expectations.

Palin’s largest problem, to my eyes, is that she was tangibly nervous for most of the debate, rushing through talking points and canned jokes alike with unsually little inflection. I doubt that this will impact her favorables much — in fact, it seems likely that her favroables will improve.

From What Tami Said

I’ve had a crazy-making fortnight with a lot of stuff going on both at work and home, so I haven’t been posting as much. I wish I had written the post that was swirling around my head over the last week, so that this morning I could look like a wise and prescient cyberpundit. I knew that Sarah Palin would perform better than her Couric and Gibson interviews would suggest. I knew Joe Biden was unlikely to make one of his trademark gaffes. I guessed that Palin would appeal to those who like bright, shiny and pretty–packaged lines and zingers and “personal connection,” not wonkiness. I thought that Biden might look a little old and dusty next to the Republican’s “breath of fresh air” candidate, but I knew that once he demonstrated his vast knowlege of foreign policy and the economy, most viewers would remember that new ain’t better if there is no “there” there. So, last night’s debate turned out just like I thought. The veep candidates’ performances likely cemented opinions on both side. Joe Biden won, but the game remains unchanged.

Michelle Malkin thinks – “Sarah Rocks”

First, I would like to see all the Sarah doubters and detractors in the Beltway/Manhattan corridor eat their words.

Eat them.

Sarah Palin is the real deal. Five weeks on the campaign trail, thrust onto the national stage, she rocked tonight’s debate.

She was warm, fresh, funny, confident, energetic, personable, relentless, and on message. She roasted Obama’s flip-flops on the surge and tea-with-dictators declarations, dinged Biden’s bash-Bush rhetoric, challenged the blame-America defeatism of the Left, and exuded the sunny optimism that energized the base in the first place.

McCain has not done many things right. But Sarah Palin proved tonight that the VP risk he took was worth it.

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So.  That’s what the media and blogger reaction to the debate was.  What was your reaction?  Who won?  Who lost?  Who was just annoying?  Let me know in comments.

Palin For Giving More Power To The Vice President?

3 October, 2008 (00:30) | Barack Obama, Biden, Bush, debate, election, election 2008, GOP, government, John McCain, news, Obama, opinion, politics, Republicans, Sarah Palin, video, war, youtube | By: Catherine Morgan

Do you think the role of the vice president needs to be expanded even more than Cheney has already expanded it?  Wouldn’t that make the actual “presidency” irrelevant?

Here is a video of Joe Biden and Sarah Palin on the Role of the VP and expanding power…

McCain thinks he should just be allowed to be the Dictator and Chief of America…

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Vice Presidential Debate – See Full Video Here

2 October, 2008 (23:18) | Barack Obama, Biden, breaking news, Bush, debate, democrats, economy, election, election 2008, feminism, government, Iraq, John McCain, media, news, Obama, opinion, politics, Republicans, Sarah Palin, video, war, women, working moms, youtube | By: Catherine Morgan

Here is the full video of the Vice Presidential Debate (it starts at about 34 seconds in). Compliments of the C-SPAN: Debate Hub.  What did you think? Who won the debate? Did Palin actually answer any questions? Let me know what you think in comments.

Pamela Lyn Will Be Live Blogging The Debate On Twitter

2 October, 2008 (19:04) | Barack Obama, Biden, bloggers, blogging, debate, democrats, election, election 2008, John McCain, media, news, Obama, opinion, politics, Republicans, Sarah Palin, Twitter, women | By: Catherine Morgan

Our very own Pamela Lyn, from Pam’s Coffee Conversation, will be live blogging the Palin/Biden debate tonight on Twitter.  If you would like to join her, here is her twitter link…

https://twitter.com/pamelalyn

I’m not a twittering pro, but I will be following Pamela tonight.

For more information on how you can use twitter to follow tonight’s debate, check out this video.

Pamela also recommends the C-SPAN: Debate Hub for even more debate coverage, I have to agree, C-SPAN is doing a great job with their election coverage.

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Pre-Debate:  Sarah Palin

Pre-Debate:  Joe Biden

Pre-Debate: What Does Biden Have To Do To Win?

2 October, 2008 (18:40) | Barack Obama, Biden, debate, democrats, economy, election, election 2008, government, John McCain, media, news, Obama, opinion, politics, Republicans, Sarah Palin, video, youtube | By: Catherine Morgan

We just did a little pre-debate post on Sarah Palin that you can see here.  So, now let’s take a look at Joe Biden.  Will he win tonight’s debate with Sarah Palin?  In my opinion, he is going to have to tread very lightly, or he could easily come off as a bully.  Here is some pre-debate facts, spin, and analysis from the media, let me know what you think in comments.

Sen. McCaskill offers advise to Joe Biden on tonight’s debate…


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Will You Be Following The Debate On Twitter?

2 October, 2008 (17:46) | Barack Obama, Biden, bloggers, blogging, debate, election, election 2008, John McCain, media, news, Obama, opinion, politics, Republicans, Sarah Palin, Twitter, video | By: Catherine Morgan

Here is an interesting video on how best to use Twitter to follow the Debate. Will you be twittering the debate?

Pre-Debate: What Does Palin Have To Do To Win?

2 October, 2008 (16:49) | Barack Obama, Biden, Bush, debate, democrats, economy, election, election 2008, GOP, government, John McCain, media, news, Obama, opinion, politics, Republicans, Sarah Palin, video, women, youtube | By: Catherine Morgan

Pre-Debate:  What Does Sarah Palin Have To Do To Win?  How do you think Sarah Palin will do tonight?  The bar has been set pretty low, but the excitement about this debate is very high.  Here are some facts, spin, and analysis from the media on what they think.  Let me know what you think in comments.

Here is a Pre-Debate Analysis of tonight’s debate between Sarah Palin and Joe Biden.


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Fact-checking The Obama-McCain Presidential Debate

29 September, 2008 (10:19) | Barack Obama, Biden, bloggers, Bush, debate, democrats, economy, election, election 2008, GOP, healthcare, John McCain, media, news, opinion, politics, Republicans, Sarah Palin, video, youtube | By: Catherine Morgan

Here is a quick video round-up, of reaction and fact-check to the Presidential Debate on Friday. Just in case you missed it, you can see the full video coverage of the debate here.  What did you think of the debate?  Let me know in comments.

Rachel Maddow responds to debate and does some fact-checking…

Fact-checking the debate on CNN…

Who Won This Debate?

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New York Women Politicos Come Out for Obama

25 September, 2008 (20:53) | Barack Obama, Biden, democrats, election, election 2008, family planning, feminism, Hillary Clinton, news, Obama, opinion, politics, Sarah Palin, women, working moms | By: Catherine Morgan

Here is a guest post from community member Marcia G. Yerman, who also blogs at The Huffington Post.

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marcia-g-yerman.jpgNew York City – On Sunday, September 21, Women for Obama held a press conference on the steps of City Hall. Arriving early, after navigating the security point guarding the government edifice (referred to by one official as “the house of the people”), I had a chance to interview some of those who had been invited to attend.

In contrast to the narrative that has been promulgated about disgruntled Hillary supporters, the women I conversed with had moved on without trauma. Martha Baker, a consultant on work/family issues, was sporting a button that announced, Hillary Supports Obama, So Do I. “He’s our candidate,” she told me. One of the forces behind the Women For Parity website, which began as “Hillary Voices,” she referenced viewing “the campaigns through a women’s issues prism.”

Carol Greenman, a retired medical administrator and Hillary turned Obama advocate said, “I’m scared to death of another Republican administration.” For her, the major questions were the future of the Supreme Court, and how life would be for her five grandchildren in a country that could be shaped by McCain-Palin ideology.

Grandmothers, ranging in age from 62 – 77, were out in force. Worried about the path that faces the younger generation, members of Grandmothers Against the War and the Granny Peace Brigade were quite vocal about their apprehensions.

Diane Dreyfus, a retired architect and activist (Code Pink) since 2001, was wearing a “We Will Not Be Silent” shirt with Arabic, Hebrew, and English writing. Asked about Sarah Palin she shuddered, “She’s frightening. If she can gut a moose in five seconds, imagine what she can do to health and welfare.”

Actress Kathleen Turner, a featured spokesperson, related to me her commitment to the Obama candidacy. She pronounced her mission as, “Whatever I can do.” Chair of the Planned Parenthood Federation of America Board of Advocates, Turner has testified before Congress on Title X (family planning program), and on the Equity of Prescription Insurance Contraception Coverage Act.

Behind those charged with addressing press and supporters, was a phalanx of women with a set of diverse signs…Nurses for Obama, Latinos for Obama, Put Children First, and Don’t Vote Race – Don’t Vote Gender – Vote Intelligence.

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Why PUMA is Wrong For Democrat Women

10 September, 2008 (13:23) | Barack Obama, Biden, Bush, democrats, election, election 2008, family planning, feminism, GOP, Hillary Clinton, John McCain, NOW, Obama, opinion, politics, Republicans, roe v. wade, Sarah Palin, theocracy, women, working moms | By: Catherine Morgan

Here is a guest post by community member Moi, she also blogs at Bloggg.

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Ooh That Smell…

Obama is getting my Hold The Nose vote. I’m sure he won’t care if I’m holding my nose or not. And it’s not because I drank the Kool Aid – I just feel the gun at my head.

Many people I know are mad at me. Oh, well, they will have more stress than I will. Lambert at Corrente says I can still be a PUMA anyway, lol. YES, I know how much vile BS Obama spewed during the primary. The media treatment was just as abhorrent to me as it was to them. I used to really like Olbermann; now I can’t stand the sight of him. The sexism has really sunk in, and the men did it to themselves. In the end, however, there are more reasons Not to vote Republican than Not to vote Democrat, or not to vote at all. And no, I won’t include the SCOTUS or Roe v. Wade, because I think they should not be part of it, either.

If you are a Dem, and vote for McCain, then maybe I could say You have fallen for the Republican Kool Aid. It has always made me wonder, the people who started this movement, are they really Republicans in stealth, who have set out to do this ON PURPOSE to split up the Democratic Party? And not just for PUMA itself, but for a lot of the bloggers that banded together early with PUMA? If that’s true, then the Republicans have succeeded. So far. Meaning we ALL drank the Kool Aid.

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