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The Feminine Mistake

23 April, 2008 (19:39) | Barack Obama, DNC, Hillary Clinton, Obama, democrats, election, election 2008, feminism, news, opinion, politics, women | By: Catherine Morgan

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Last Saturday, Clark County Dems gathered for our county convention to elect our delegates for the congressional district and state conventions. It was also an opportunity for Hillary and Obama supporters to switch sides if they so chose (few did).

Like any Democratic gathering, it was a zoo: organized in the macro sense, getting everyone badged and out on the gym floor, but turning to chaos when it got down to action. Where was the 49th supporters supposed to caucus? Were the Hillary delegates upstairs or down? What to do about the delegates in wheelchairs who couldn’t get into the stands?

But one thing was crystal clear: the makeup of the Hillary contingent. There were very few non-white faces among them, and those under 60 amounted to less than a handful. Males counted for even less.

Conversely, Obama’s supporters were every age, race, and ran the spectrum of gender and sexual orientation.

Because I’m a woman, I’m uncomfortable blogging about this, but given the results of yesterday’s Pennsylvania primary, I have to:

[M]ore than 60% of Clinton voters say they wouldn’t be happy if Obama were the nominee; about half of Obama voters say the same. 25% of Clinton supporters say they’d vote for McCain in the general election; 17% of Obama supporters say they’d vote for McCain in the general election.

Obama’s voters are looking toward Obama as a standard bearer, as a point man for the change they want to see in the country. Hillary’s supporters, at least the older women among them, are voting for their surrogate: because they want to see a woman in the Oval Office before they die, and because they themselves were denied so many opportunities for advancement in their own lives.

You could see it in the eyes of the supporters who came over to the Obama side to try and win converts, that fragile hopefulness that verges on pleading. Can’t you see it’s our last chance?

I do not doubt that they also desperately believe in Hillary Clinton, but their investment in her goes much deeper than politics. Hillary Clinton is proof that they had it in them all along, the fire, talent and creativity, and they could have been leaders but for the glass ceiling that seemed to rise only inches a decade.

Some of Hillary’s supporters are women I know and love, and I understand their yearning. But if Pennsylvania polls are any guide, many of these women don’t even think Hillary will be the eventual nominee - but they’re sticking with her anyway.

And that’s a mistake too far.

We cannot afford another 4 years of war, debt and economic stagnation, the prescription of a McCain presidency. So we Dems cannot allow Clinton voters to take their ball and go home come November.

The idea of the so-called “dream ticket” of Clinton-Obama makes me nearly nauseous, picturing Bill shouldering a VP Obama out of the way, or a VP Clinton huddling with Bill over in the Executive Office Building a là Cheney, maintaining her own shadow presidency and undermining the Oval Office.

But if that is what we have to do to win, I’m willing to suck it up. Because the alternative - a McCain presidency - is unacceptable.

What we Dems on the Obama side need to do in the meantime is to let these Hillary voters know how much we respect their accomplishments, and understand their need to see one of their own make it to the top. We have to lead them back with the issues that have made them Democrats in the first place: equality, choice, strong public schools, health care, and economic security.

If we do not build some kind of bridge, McCain will have his hand on that bible come next January 20th - and nobody wants that.

Comments

Comment from betmo
Time: April 23, 2008, 10:34 pm

i agree to a certain extent. i would not want to see clinton any where near the white house precisely because she is too much like mccain. without rehashing the entire debacle that this primary season has been- i would like to see all of the states hold their primaries and not have to worry about superdelegates. i believe clinton is pandering to the section of the dems that are most like repubs- and trying to draw repubs who are disenfranchised. obama hasn’t snidely referred to her gender but she has his color- and he hasn’t said anything about her religion but she beat that horse into the ground. he is not my first choice but he is the only choice i have. if clinton hijacks the nomination, she will most assuredly will not have my vote. there isn’t a bridge long enough or wide enough for her to get that.

Comment from jacilyn
Time: April 23, 2008, 11:16 pm

Hillary Clinton is a fine candidate who does have a chance at winning the election. Please do not suggest her supporters are all doddering old fools. We see her as the better candidate - with the right view on important issues such as universal health care and social security, and the best shot at fixing the economy. You might disagree, but that is no reason to insult us. There are in fact reasons to support Hillary Clinton other than “the poor old dear sees her pathetic last chance in Hillary”.

It’s worth pointing out that Hillary Clinton has won more actual votes than Obama. She has also won all but one of the big states crucial to actually winning a general election. So please do not make it sound as if only a few delusional old white women are supporting her.

Comment from slim
Time: April 25, 2008, 3:39 pm

Jacilyn,

I did not mean any insult. I was just reporting what I saw at our local convention, and what I heard from them: it’s time for a woman, and I need to see a woman president before I die.

And Re: Clinton having more votes, that’s true if you count Michigan WHERE OBAMA WASN’T EVEN ON THE BALLOT. Both Clinton and Obama agreed that MI and FL wouldn’t count, and now Clinton’s trying to change the rules - and the metrics - to suit her.

According to the AP, Clinton won 82 of 158 delegates allocated by the PA primary: a whopping 52%.

Those delegates bring her count up from a pre-PA 1,592.5 to 1,674.5, which takes her from 78.6 of the necessary 2,025 delegates for the nomination to a respectable 82.7%.

Obama, on the other hand, went from 85.1% of 2,025 pre-PA to 88.7% post-PA.

Hillary needs to win at least 77.9% of the vote in all 9 of the remaining primaries in order to win the nomination - something she hasn’t come close to doing in any single primary to date.

Obama needs only 28.9%.

I’m not an Obama true believer, but I do believe he is the better of the two candidates, and I am also profoundly worried about what this continued slugfest will do to our chances in the fall.

Comment from Catherine Morgan
Time: April 25, 2008, 3:46 pm

Hey Slim. Did you see Cynthia from Don’t Gel Too Soon picked up your post? Nice job. :-)

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